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Monday, September 10, 2007

Pre-Game Haka Penalty, Warriors Replay

Stephen Tsai talks to coaches and players about the pre-game haka that drew an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against the Warriors.
"The rule hasn't changed since last year, and we were allowed to do it," Jones said. "For someone to micro-manage outside the NCAA rules, that's not right."

The WAC will not offer a public response until it receives a report from the officiating crew.
"I checked," Jones said of the guidelines. "We didn't do it on the field. We did it 75 yards away from the field. ... It's not (unsportsmanlike). It's a cultural, spiritual thing. It's unfortunate. There's no unsportsmanlike issue in the book covering this."

Safety Keao Monteilh said: "We got penalized for something we do before every game. There's no sense in that. We were looking over the field. We didn't make any gestures to (the Louisiana Tech players). We were pointing to our fans."

Jones said it appears the Warriors are being singled out. He said other college programs have pre-game rituals.
I still say the WAC should just ban mascots and loud fans, just in case people are offended by that too. The WAC should also ban:
  • "Fight songs" because they could be mistaken as a call to violence.

  • Black uniforms because black is the absence of light, which is therefore evil.

  • Synchronized jumping jacks during warm-ups because of its implicit endorsement of communism.
In case the WAC can't see the light, Ferd Lewis offers a solution.
The WAC maintains the haka isn't being targeted and UH isn't under special scrutiny. Though amid reports of complaints by Tech last year, you have to wonder.

But, just as some teams come in for closer inspection on holding or pass interference calls or certain rules are given stronger emphasis in enforcement, teams learn to adjust. For UH, this doesn't mean doing away with the haka at all. Just making sure the opponent is tucked away in the locker room before it starts.
Back to Tsai's article, which also has news about:
  • The dehydration and cramping some of the Warriors suffered during the game.

  • RGM not worrying about the drop in rankings

  • Korey Reynolds suffering a slightly dislocated shoulder during the game.
Dave Reardon talks to the coaches and players about what they learned from the LaTech game.
"That is how it's going to be every game, every play," said receiver Ryan Grice-Mullins, who caught nine passes for 162 yards and two touchdowns. "We are a big target."
"We're good, but bad things can happen. We have to be more consistent," Lafaele said between dinner and study hall last night. "We needed a wake-up call like that."
"It's a big mental thing to try to get through," McMackin said. "We talked about what happened two years ago before the game. This time they didn't give up, they refused to lose. They faced adversity and didn't quit."
The bottom of that page has Dave Reardon's "Warriors Replay", recapping and reviewing five big plays from the game. Here's #2:
2. Breaking the ice

The Setup: LaTech 14, Hawaii 0; 1:43 remaining, first quarter, Hawaii ball, second and 9 at LaTech 47.
The Play: RB Leon Wright-Jackson takes a handoff from QB Colt Brennan and bursts through the middle of the line. He breaks through to the second level of the defense and beyond. Sensing pursuit, he veers right and beats the pack to the end zone.
The Impact: Hawaii's longest run from scrimmage since Nate Ilaoa's 53-yarder in 2005 spurs the offense. Brennan leads a 99-yard drive on the next series, capping it with a 3-yard rushing TD of his own to tie the score at 14.
Jones: "I scripted some plays for Leon. That's just a little bit of what he can do. He'll get better and better."
He's an exciting player. Can't wait to see what he does as the season goes on.

8 Comments:

  • At Monday, September 10, 2007 at 2:14:00 PM HST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The haka thing is ridiculous. In addition to the slippery slope it creates (like you pointed out), it also makes me wonder then why schools like Florida State are allowed to have a dude riding around on a horse in war garb throwing a spear into the ground before a game as a declaration of battle. Or why Oregon is allowed to take a sledgehammer to the mid-field logo AT Michigan. Nobody says anything about that do they?

    Does the WAC WANT to affirm to the rest of the country that we are indeed small time football? Sad.

     
  • At Monday, September 10, 2007 at 8:52:00 PM HST, Blogger Tombo Ahi said…

    great points. hopefully no big brouhaha comes out of this, and/or the wac sees how stupid they're being. seems like they're just bending over backwards for one or two complainers. those damn kids and their rock & roll music!

     
  • At Monday, September 10, 2007 at 11:42:00 PM HST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I totally agree! What a ridiculous thing to be upset about and an unfair 15-yard penalty to impose upon us. Okay so I have to admit that while seaching Google sites looking for stories and facts about our Warriors, I came upon the LaTech site. I read nearly the 19 pages of posts entitled, "Haka, just a pre-game taunting?" and couldn't resist slipping in my own post at their webblog located at http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/
    showthread.php?t=41337

    Here's what I wrote on page 19 of their blog:

    Hawaii Rumor has it that Ruston/LaTech fans are making a big deal about the Hawaii Warrior team's Haka performances. And guess what I found? It’s all true! How do I know? This blog is 19 pages long!?!

    Rather than expend energy on how you/your team can better beat your upcoming opponents, how you can get yourself a higher paying job, how to prepare for a safe duck hunt, whether your school should give your new coach a raise, how to suggest a potential high school football recruiting prospect be considered to the LaTech team, you prefer to waste time obsessing over this one little issue.

    So much ado about nothing. Really.

    Personally I think some Ruston, LA folks are just being a little bit touchy and a little bit close-minded. Don’t allow your pre-conceived notions about war, fights, threats, etc. get in the way of your rational thinking. Does the Haka hurt anyone? Did you see any Hawaii players beating up on fans or LaTech players? I doubt it.

    Okay so our football team does the Haka on your school’s emblem. You say they stomp out of disrespect. Think about it – If your school is so offended by ‘stomping,’ is the center of the field a sensible location for your sacred logos? Common sense guys. Don’t put anything you treasure where people naturally stomp, etc. The location of constant activity – where marching bands march and football players run, jump, and fall -- is bound to occur at the center of the field at/on/about the 50 yard line right where YOUR school put that logo!!!

    So I think the problem is that Rustonians just don’t understand Polynesian traditions. Without doubt, the Haka performance is different from ones in traditional western culture. No docey-dos for us! (Come on manly Tech guys, don’t tell me you’ve never danced.)

    It’s when people don't understand something happening to them that they feel threatened. And by the many complaining comments I’ve read, many of you must feel threatened. So I ask, “Of what is there to be afraid???” A little thumping dance? Yes, our guys can look a little imposing. So what??? I’ll bet if you got to know each of them, you’d find they’re really nice guys at heart. Management 101A -- If you’re nice to people, they’ll be nice to you. Treat people the way you want to be treated. And for heaven sakes, don’t judge a book by it’s cover! If you treat people like lepers, they’ll most likely want to act like lepers just to piss you off. Management 101B -- Don't assume anything – instead, ask questions when you don't understand. Don’t know what the Haka is about? Gosh darn it, then ask! If our Polynesian-looking guys were such a threat to other American college football teams and players, do you think our Hawaii Warrior Polynesian football players would protect a Caucasian quarterback named, Colt Brennan?!? Ask Colt! He thinks they’re great.

    Let’s talk about another cultural difference, the way people greet each other. People on the Continental United States say “hi” and “hello” differently from those in Hawaii. Not all of us are about the code-of-respect mantra, "Good evening Mr. Wilson, How are you tonight; Oh, I'm doing very well, thank you so very much for asking, Mr. Smith; Pleased to meet you,” types of people. In Hawaii, a short nod of the head upwards just says everything that needs to be said in one abbreviated yet defined motion. That one nod says it all -- “Hi,” “How are you doing?,” “What’s up,” and “Thank you.” The thinking is really, 1) ‘actions speak louder than words,’ 2) everyone should just get to the point, and 3) a person speaking nicely doesn’t necessarily mean squat if they’re mean at heart. We’re just attuned to a different culture and a different way of life. Out here in the Pacific Ocean, we think talk is cheap and that someone’s actions are what really count.

    If you want to bring your doggies, horses, pigs, ducks (as long as it’s okay with stadium officials) to roam on, over, across or pounce on our University of Hawaii logo, emblem, etc..., in the middle of the field, please feel free. In fact, bring your whole school! Come on down! An emblem is just an emblem. You can stomp on it as much as you like so long as no harm come to fans and team members, and there’s no desecration to the facility.

    We should all be careful in our complaints. Careful of what we wish for. Do we really want all our traditions taken away? Just the simple act of football can be considered violent. Carefully scrutinized, I’m certain most cheer traditions could be thought of as threatening and violent though we all know that it’s all said (ok -- screamed) in fun. Look at the words cheer-writers use to define the act of out-scoring (beating) an opposing team. How about violent words in cheer signs saying, “Bash the Warriors” or “Raid the Bulldogs Pen”? Pre-game acts like team yells, screams, or cheers from fans or teams could also be taken the wrong way. And team members encircling their own outstretched arms with hands covering each other at the center to accentuate a team cheer could be taken as ritualistic and a pre-meditated act of violence too.

    Let’s all get along and maintain to keep our traditions strong. No one should ever feel offended by another’s traditions, especially before understanding them. If you don’t know about something, just ask away. If you don’t like the answer or it doesn’t make sense, ask sommore. If you’re a good person with respectful ways, you’ll get an answer right away.

     
  • At Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 8:33:00 AM HST, Blogger Tombo Ahi said…

    are you the same anonymous as the previous anonymous? wow, that message board is going crazy. great post, but they don't seem to like it.

    i can't remember any other team getting so bent out of shape over the haka. most other teams' fans seem to like it, or just don't really care. anyway, i'm probably just generalizing. i'm sure most latech fans are cool.

     
  • At Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 1:38:00 AM HST, Blogger UHfan808 said…

    Thanks and Props to your article and the first post here for giving me the inspiration and desire to blog. Nope, I didn’t post the first one so perhaps I should have used UHfan808 to distinguish the third. Sorry about that, it was my first entry.

    The LaTech fans are nuts about our Haka. There’s so much frustration on their side. Today they added one more page after my last night’s post. I didn’t have a chance to reply today. They left off at page 20.

    What I’d hoped for I found mid-page 20. (My interpretation:) The LaTech blogger noted that should Hawaii push the issue, the result could be officials banning all acts perceived as “violent,” thereby further “demoralizing” the football experience.

    A later post commented that our game of football might be reduced to that of soccer. Ugh what a thought.

     
  • At Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 2:44:00 AM HST, Blogger UHfan808 said…

    By the way, would anyone please explain the meaning of the motions that make up this year's UH Warrior Haka?

     
  • At Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 8:48:00 AM HST, Blogger Tombo Ahi said…

    uhfan808,

    welcome to the blogging world! thanks for your comments and i'm glad you decided to write the post. if you haven't already, you should also check out stephen tsai's blog -- they got a great community going over there, lot of great people, but it's sometimes hard to keep up with the 600 comments a day (!!)

    i'm hoping the WAC won't impose other limits on what UH can do in the pre-game. benson says that as long as UH doesn't do the haka in the presence of the sensitive eyes and ears of the opposing team, they should be okay. but just wait till a fan starts complaining, and then we'll see.

    as for the motions of this year's haka, i'm not sure since i haven't seen it yet. brad kalilimoku said that the team might unveil the new chant in vegas. that would be cool. if someone youtubes it, i'll post it here.

     
  • At Monday, November 10, 2008 at 10:32:00 AM HST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    i heard dat u guyz r resensted in sum way due 2 da haka which isnt hawaiian but yet u guyz do it at err game y is it dat plp hate on dat?

     

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